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On Dec. 4 at the Soho Beach House in Miami, longtime friends and fellow artists Michael Chow and Julian Schnabel joined Surface editor-in-chief Spencer Bailey for an intimate conversation. Lounging beachside on the club’s rooftop, friends, collectors, and other art and design influencers listened in as the two artists exchanged ideas. Chow and Schnabel discussed truth in art, their creative processes, and the value of disregarding utility.